Out of Town

We moved 1000 miles away from our friends and family and just had a new baby....

Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Tznius meme

Sephardi Lady tagged me with a tznius meme started by Mom in Israel. Since I haven't blogged in about 100 years, I figured this would be a good way to get back into it. I am sure no one has looked over here for a while, since really I haven't updated anything in forever.

Before I start the meme, I just wanted to give everyone an update on the kids. Sima started walking for real yesterday. She had been taking 3 or 4 steps for about 2 weeks, but now she can walk across a room. It is really cute and exciting. Aryeh is really getting big as well. He can now catch line drives and pop flies. It is pretty unbelievable.

Onto the meme:

For married women, do you dress by the same standards as you did when you got married?
I think I might be a little stricter. I don't remember when I stopped wearing slits, it might have been before I was married or after, I am not sure. Apart from that, about the same. I still wear most of the same clothes :)
Also for married women, do you and your husband conflict about this issue?
We do conflict a little. He thinks I could be a little more lenient, especially since we live out of town now. On our side of town, it is really acceptable to not wear stockings, but I am not comfortable with that now.
Have your standards changed from when you were growing up, and why?
Well, since I wasn't raised frum, yes they have changed a bit, although I was never a pants wearer, I did wear shorter skirts.
Do you often feel uncomfortable when you are in the company of a group keeping higher or lower standards than you?
I think I keep the highest level of tznius common in my community (ie. collar bone always covered, all hair covered, stockings, no slits in the skirts), but I don't always look as put together as others. I am not a teacher, so when I drop my kids at school, they always look very professional, and I look kind of shlubby, especially as I have started to walk to work (about 2.5 miles) and I need to wear running shoes.
If you have ever suddenly changed your standard of dress, did people treat you differently or make approving/disapproving remarks? I never suddenly changed.
How accepting is your community of women who "deviate" from the generally accepted mode of dress? On our side of town (the more modern side) women can dress however they want with very little comment. Most of the women here wear pants and do not cover their hair. I have often joked that I could go out in a bikini, and I don't think anyone would care. In the more yeshivish neighborhood, the community is much less accepting of this behavior, and I think it is big reason why the two sides do not get along better.
If you have a daughter, has tzniut become an issue yet? Not yet, she is just 1 :)
Any other comments you care to share on the topic.
In the modern world, I feel that tznius is really not addressed much. I think a lot of the ladies in my community would dress a little differently if they were taught otherwise. There are a lot of baalei tshuva here, who became baalei tshuva here, and don't know any other community. I wouldn't say they should be instructed to keep a yeshivish version of tzius, but a little longer sleeves wouldn't hurt either. I makes me a little uncomfortable being around frum women in tank tops, b/c I think they are uncomfortable with me seeing them....


Blogger SephardiLady said...

I'm glad I got you back to blogging. Please come visit soon. We want to see you again. :)

Good for you to get out and walk to work. I wish I was exercising more. Even if I was hitting the gym for an hour a day, it doesn't compare to exercising + getting out and walking.

BTW-I think you stopped wearing slits before you were married because I remember you showing me how to make a kick pleat. I like a clean line on skirts now and just don't buy with slits, but I do have one jean skirt that has slits and just have not bothered to sew it up. It probably will hit the Goodwill pile soon.

April 24, 2007 9:00 AM  
Anonymous themarykaygal said...

I saw your comment on Sl's blog that you answered this meme and are blogging again so I figured I'd come check you out! Sima is one already? And walking? Oh my GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Time flies so much. Our twins are almost 4 months old now--- smiling and cooing and starting to reach and grab which is fun. Hope all is well!

April 24, 2007 10:54 AM  
Blogger mother in israel said...

Great to see you around! Early next week I plan to post links to all the responses.

April 24, 2007 11:02 AM  
Blogger Selena said...

Sephardilady: I do love kickpleats, but now that we are "out of town" I don't have a good cheap tailor to do it. I need to get a sewing machine...

Marykaygal: I would love to see a picture of them. I bet they are adorable. Give my love to them and the hubby.

Mother in Israel: Thanks.

April 24, 2007 12:33 PM  
Anonymous themarykaygalnewmomoftwins :) said...

email me so I have your email addy again please!!! hprice @ marykay.com

April 24, 2007 6:38 PM  
Blogger Am Kshe Oref - A Stiff-Necked People said...

Yay! You've started blogging again!!

Am I the only guy reading this?

May 01, 2007 4:24 PM  
Anonymous Ilana-Davita said...

This is an answer to your comment on Mominisrael's blog concerning baseball player role models.
Selena, apparently Dovid Green is an observant baseball player. Here is the link to his blog:

July 01, 2007 12:29 PM  
Anonymous modest clothing said...

Perhaps you can post a few fliers around the community with basic modesty laws.

July 01, 2012 1:58 PM  

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